NH OUTLOOK, Monday, 1/12/2004
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Hello and Welcome to New Hampshire Outlook. I'm Julie Donnelly.
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In this edition, You've heard the names Dean, Kerry, and Lieberman. But what about Bosa, Rigazio, Callus? We'll meet some of the lesser known candidates running in the first-in-the-nation primary.
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Plus, we'll show you what it's like to bird-dog a presidential candidate.
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As we make our way towards New Hampshire's Presidential Primary on January 27th, there are some official candidates who never even make it onto the mass media's radar screen. They struggle for any press coverage at all. But these long shots are the main attraction at the Lesser Known Candidate's Forum - held every four years at the Tuck Library in Concord. Chip Neal has the story.
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MY MAJOR ISSUE WOULD BE THE UNILATERAL APPROACH THAT THE PRESENT ADMINISTRATION HAS TOWARDS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, TOWARDS OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES AND TOWARDS OTHER COUNTRIES.
WE'RE IN A FINANCIAL CRISIS.
THE SYSTEM IS COMING DOWN.
IN WAR THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.
WE'VE GOT TO GET RID OF CHENEY AND WHAT HE REPRESENTS.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO A FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT APPROACH TO AN ONRUSHING DEPRESSION.
THAT'S THE BASIC ISSUE.
IF WE STICK TO THE ECONOMIC ISSUE, THEN ON THAT ISSUE, WE WILL HAVE VERY LITTLE PROBLEM WITH FRIENDS OVERSEAS IN EUROPE AND ELSEWHERE.
AS LONG AS WE'RE ON THIS WAR ISSUE AND IGNORING THE ECONOMIC CRISIS, WE'RE IN DEEP TROUBLE.
THAT'S WHAT HAS TO CHANGE.
THIS IS A WAY OUT.
BECAUSE IT'S WIND, AND WIND MACHINES ARE NO MORE DIFFICULT TO BUILD THAN AUTOMOBILES THERE'S NOTHING NEW AND EXOTIC NEEDED, NO R&D REQUIRED.
ALL YOU'LL DO IS MASS PRODUCE THIS EQUIPMENT.
YOU'LL EMPLOY ABOUT 10 MILLION PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WILL HAVE TO BUILD AND OPERATE THIS.
WE WILL BECOME A SAUDI ARABIA CLASS ENERGY EXPORTER OF HYDROGEN.
THAT WILL MAKE OUR COUNTRY WEALTHY BEYOND OUR DREAMS.
ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT THINK THERE ARE JUST NINE CANDIDATES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE'S PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ELECTION, THERE ARE 39 CANDIDATES REGISTERED.
THIS IS A WAY FOR VOTERS TO GET TO KNOW THE LESSER KNOWN CANDIDATES.
IN ENGLAND, HOLLAND, JAPAN, AUSTRALIA, DENMARK, SWEDEN, NO ONE HAS A GUN.
THEY HAD 20 TO 30 GUN MURDERS ALL OF LAST YEAR.
WE HAD 20,000 GUN MURDERERS AND 30,000 WOUNDED.
THE OTHER DAY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE A HUNTER WAS KILLED BY HIS HUNTING COMPANION.
I'M THE ONLY CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES INCLUDING THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT AND MAJOR DEMOCRATS WHO IS SAYING NO GUNS, PERIOD.
NO HUNTING GUNS, NO GUNS FOR ANY PURPOSE.
THE FORUM FOR LESSER KNOWN CANDIDATES IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE 29 OTHER PEOPLE IN ADDITION TO THE NINE DEMOCRATIC FRONTRUNNERS AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO HAVE A STAGE AND TO HAVE A PLATFORM TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT CAUSE THEM TO PAY THE $1,000 FEE AND TO PUT THEIR NAMES OUT IN PUBLIC AS AN ADVOCATE FOR A PARTICULAR ISSUE OR POSITION.
I WOULD REINSTITUTE THE CAMP DAVID PEACE ACCORD.
I WOULD INVITE ARIEL SHARON AND I WOULD INVITE YASSER ARAFAT.
I WOULD ASK PRESIDENTS CARTER AND CLINTON AND SENATOR MITCHELL TO COME AND BROKER THAT PEACE AGREEMENT.
I WOULD GO FURTHER, I WOULD HIRE 25,000 NEW C.I.A. AGENTS TO INFILTRATE THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS WHICH WOULD BE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN TRYING TO USE OUR TROOPS TO FIGHT THIS WAR ON TERRORISM.
I WOULD USE THE EXISTING TROOPS AS FACILITATORS AND ENABLERS RATHER THAN AS OCCUPIERS, AND THEN THE FOURTH THING I WOULD DO IS I WOULD PUT TOGETHER A MIDEAST-AMERICAN ALLIANCE OF A MIDEAST NATION.
THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN HELPING REBUILD IRAQ BOTH ECONOMICALLY, POLITICALLY AND SOCIALLY.
THOSE FOUR THINGS I THINK WE COULD RIGHT.
WE COULD GET RID OF THE TERRORISM IF WE GET RID OF THEIR CAUSE.
THEIR CAUSE IS THE PALESTINIAN-ISRAELI ISSUE.
I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LEAVING TO THE NEXT GENERATION.
AT 81 THAT'S MY BIG THING.
I WORRY ABOUT EVERYBODY'S CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WHICH I HAVE NUMBERS OF THEM.
I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS LEAVING THEM AT LEAST AS GOOD A WORLD AS WE GOT WHEN WE WERE YOUNG, HOPEFULLY BETTER.
BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LEAVING THEM A WORLD THAT'S WORSE.
WE'RE LEAVING THEM A PILE OF DEATH.
WE ARE LEAVING THEM AN ENVIRONMENT DEGRADED.
WE'RE LEAVING THEM AN INTERNATIONAL SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD DON'T LIKE THE U.S. AND ARE DOWN ON US.
WE HAVE TERRORISTS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
WE'RE NOT REALLY SUCCEEDING IN DEALING WITH THE TERRORISTS.
WE'RE JUST CREATING MORE TERRORISTS.
ANYWAY, THAT'S WHY I'M RUNNING.
ANY OF THEIR ISSUES IN PARTICULAR STRIKE YOU?
THERE'S A GROUPING OF ISSUES ACTUALLY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE FILED IN OPPOSITION TO THE WAR IN IRAQ.
THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN ECONOMIC PLATFORM OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER.
USUALLY IT GOES TO THE PROTECTION OF AMERICAN JOBS AND TO HAVE THE ECONOMY OF THE UNITED STATES WORK FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF AMERICANS.
MY THREE KEY ISSUES, WHICH I BELIEVE MAKE ME SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN BOTH PARTIES, ARE THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AND TROUBLING ISSUES RELATED TO 9/11.
THE CAMPAIGN OF LIES AND DECEIT THAT LED US INTO WAR IN IRAQ AND MOST IMPORTANT TO ME AS A REPUBLICAN THE BETRAYAL BY GEORGE W. BUSH OF HIS OWN CAMPAIGN PROMISES AND OF WHAT I CONSIDER CORE REPUBLICAN VALUES.
IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD YOU ENVISION.
I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF VOUCHERS WHICH IS ACTUALLY FREEDOM OF CHOICE IN EDUCATION.
THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO REPRESENT THAT.
I BELIEVE IN FREE ENTERPRISE, THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM AND COMPETITION.
THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS ALL ABOUT.
THE BEST SUCCEED.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT THE BEST DO NOT SUCCEED.
YOU CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY OR THE ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT ENERGY.
AND MY CAMPAIGN IS FOCUSED AROUND WHAT WE CALL THE PHOENIX PROJECT WHICH WOULD ALLOW OUR COUNTRY TO BECOME ENERGY INDEPENDENT OF ALL OIL, COAL AND NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS WITHIN A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
AND THIS WOULD BE DONE BY MASS PRODUCING WIND-POWERED HYDROGEN PRODUCTION SYSTEMS.
MULTI-NATIONALS CONTROL EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A STANDARD ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.
THEY'RE HIDING THE MONEY, STEALING.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A CORPORATE GOVERNANCE GOVERNMENT WHERE THE CORPORATION'S HEADQUARTERS HAVE TO BE LOCATED IN THE STATE IN WHICH THEY'RE LOCATED.
WE HAVE TO QUESTION THEM PERIODICALLY ON THEIR SOCIAL PROGRAMS, POLLUTION PROGRAMS, ACCOUNTING PROGRAMS, AND DISENFRANCHISE THEM IF WE HAVE TO.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE TRADE TREATIES, MAKE THEM RESPONSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE AND NOT TO THE CORPORATIONS.
RIGHT NOW CORPORATIONS ARE MOVING AND WE'RE GIVING THEM TAX DEDUCTIONS TO MOVE.
I'M RUNNING TO REPRESENT THE VOICE OF TEENS.
Reporter: OF TEENS?
OF TEENS, YES.
I HAVE A FOUNDATION AND A CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS SITE CALLED TEENVOICE2004.COM WHICH IS DESIGNED FOR TEENS, FIRST-TIME VOTERS, TO LEARN ABOUT THE POLITICAL SYSTEM, DISCUSS THE ISSUES AND THEN I'M THEIR VOICE.
I WANT TO GET OUT OF THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION.
AND I WANT A NEW AGENCY JUST LIKE THE AGENCY FOR TERRORISM TO MAINTAIN AND STABILIZE AND BUILD UP OUR JOBS.
THEY CAN CALL IT PROTECTIONISM OR THEY CAN CALL IT ALL THEY WANT, BUT WE HAVE TO GO TO WORK TO PROTECT OUR AMERICAN JOBS.
AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, THANK YOU FOR THE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
Reporter: IS IT WORTH IT?
IT IS WORTH IT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THE TEENS ARE INVOLVED AND KNOW ABOUT OUR PROCESS AND WANT TO HELP THERE'S AN AGENDA DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY BY THEM THEN IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH IT.
I RECOGNIZE YOU'RE RUNNING AGAINST PRESIDENT BUSH BUT I WOULD ASK YOU, IF YOU COULD, TO IDENTIFY A MEMBER OF HIS ADMINISTRATION THAT YOU THINK IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE OR THAT YOU ARE MOST IMPRESSED WITH.
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Reporter: IN CONCORD FOR "NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK," I'M CHIP NEAL.
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Joining us now to talk more about the history of the Lesser Known Candidates and their impact on the primary, Michael Chaney the executive director of the New Hampshire Political Library and Sean O'Kane a member of the Library's Board of Directors. Thank you both for being here.
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THANK YOU.
GLAD TO BE HERE.
I WANTED TO ASK, THERE ARE FRINGE CANDIDATES OR SO-CALLED FRINGE CANDIDATES IN MANY STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY BUT WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE PROCESS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE THAT'S SO DIFFERENT?
WELL, I THINK BECAUSE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY IS FIRST IN THE NATION, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ATTENTION NATIONALLY FROM THE MAJOR CANDIDATES BEGINNING TO RUN HERE EVEN IN THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR.
OUR FILING PERIOD, THE FIRST THREE WEEKS OF NOVEMBER, GENERATES A GREAT DEAL OF ATTENTION.
THAT'S WHEN THE 29 OTHER CANDIDATES IN ADDITION TO THE MAJOR CANDIDATES TOOK THE TIME TO PAY THEIR $1,000 AND TO FILE IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.
NOW, ARE THERE ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS?
DO YOU HAVE TO GET 50,000 SIGNATURES?
DO YOU HAVE TO RAISE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY?
NOT AT ALL.
YOU NEED TO ARRIVE AT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE OR SEND AN APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVE TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, PAY THE FILING FEE AND FILL OUT A FORM AND SIGN IT THAT INDICATES YOUR INTENT TO FILE.
THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.
WHAT PREVENTS IT FROM BECOMING A CIRCUS?
SOMETIMES I THINK IT DOES.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
I THINK BY AND LARGE YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE REALLY DO HAVE A STRONG MESSAGE THEY WANT TO GET OUT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES WHO YOU MIGHT STILL CALL FRINGE BUT THE LESSER KNOWNs, AS WE PREFER TO KNOW THEM HAVE, REALLY HAVE SOMETHING DEEP INSIDE THEM, A PASSION AND A MESSAGE THEY FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET OUT, A CONCERN THEY HAVE.
WHAT I NOTICED IN THE DEBATE THE OTHER DAY THEY WERE TERRIBLY SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND MOST OF THEM WERE QUITE ARTICULATE IN GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.
ARE THERE CANDIDATES INSULTED BY BEING CALLED "FRINGE CANDIDATES" OR "LESSER KNOWN CANDIDATES"?
YOU TAKE THAT ONE.
WELL, PROBABLY.
BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO. I THINK THERE'S A DISTINCTION IN IT TOO THAT THEY'RE PROUD OF, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO RUN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO THIS ANYWHERE ELSE.
SO I DO THINK OVERALL THAT IT'S A. IT'S AN HONOR TO THEM.
I KNOW MANY OF THE CANDIDATES ARE ACTUALLY FROM OUT OF STATE.
SO DO THEY ACTUALLY CAMPAIGN IN THE STATE THE WAY THAT THE MAJOR CANDIDATES DO?
WELL, I THINK THE REALITIES OF BEING ABLE TO STAFF AND RUN A CAMPAIGN CERTAINLY AFFECT THAT.
IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE OF THE CANDIDATES WHO NOT ONLY FILED IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY BUT HAVE FILED IN OTHER PRIMARIES SUCH AS MISSOURI AND PRIMARIES THAT ARE CLOSER TO WHERE THEY COME FROM ORIGINALLY, BUT THEY ARE ON THE ROAD AND THEY ARE MAKING THE MOST OF THIS VERY SHORT WINDOW OF TIME BETWEEN THE FILING PERIOD IN NOVEMBER AND JANUARY 27.
SOME OF THEM WILL GO ON TO OTHER STATES.
IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
I ASKED ONE CANDIDATE, "KNOWING THE ODDS YOUR FACING, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?"
THE MESSAGE IS, "I HAVE A VISION OF HOPE.
I REALLY WANT TO TRY TO CONVEY THAT."
WE SEE CANDIDATES. ONE SOLD HIS CAR TO FINANCE THIS CAMPAIGN.
THE OTHER CANDIDATES PROBABLY SPENT $2500 AND IT'S PROBABLY AT THE HIGH END I'D SAY OF WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY DON'T LACK PASSION.
THAT'S FOR CERTAIN.
THEY WILL APPEAR AT VARIOUS EVENTS WHEREVER THEY CAN.
THERE WAS A COLLEGE FORUM WITH COLLEGE STUDENTS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.
SEVERAL OF THE MAJOR CANDIDATES WERE THERE BUT A LOT OF LESSER KNOWN CANDIDATES CAME TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS AS WELL.
AND SO DO YOU FIND THAT THERE IS ANY KIND OF UNIFYING QUALITIES THAT MAKE UP THESE LESSER KNOWN CANDIDATES?
I MEAN, WHAT REALLY MOTIVATES SOMEONE TO WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT?
WELL, I THINK THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY ACTIVE IN A POLITICAL SENSE AND IN A PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY SENSE, THAT IS, THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE CAMPAIGNING ABOUT MEAN A GREAT DEAL TO THEM.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT LYNDON LAROUCHE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT JOHN DONALD RAGOZIO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY, VERY CLEAR IN THEIR OWN MINDS ABOUT WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMY, TO IMPROVE OUR STANDING WORLDWIDE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST DOING IT DURING THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY BUT THEY ARE SPENDING THEIR LIFE ADVOCATING IN A POLITICAL WAY, WHICH WE ARE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO DO HERE IN AMERICA, FOR THE SOLUTIONS THAT THEY BELIEVE IN.
NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, VERY SERIOUS ARTICULATE CANDIDATES AND THERE WERE MANY OF THEM AT YOUR EVENT AND CERTAINLY HAVE WEB SITES AND ORGANIZATIONS BEHIND THEM.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO ARE SOME CANDIDATES THAT ARE JUST OUT THERE FOR FUN OR FOR PUBLICITY.
DO YOU HAVE SOME FAVORITES OVER THE YEARS?
I KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM COME BACK ELECTION CYCLE AFTER ELECTION CYCLE.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE SINGING CANDIDATE FROM FOUR YEARS AGO.
I KNOW HE'S BACK IN THE STATE AND HIS NAME ESCAPES ME RIGHT NOW.
EVERY ANSWER HE HAD, HE SANG IT TO US IN THE DEBATE FOUR YEARS AGO WHICH WAS A LOT OF FUN.
THERE'S ANOTHER CANDIDATE WHO APPEARS LOOKING ALMOST AS A VIKING WITH A BOOT ON HIS HEAD.
HE DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DEBATE THIS YEAR.
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE HIM IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS WORKING THE HALLWAYS.
THOSE TWO STICK OUT IN MY MIND.
I THINK THAT THE CANDIDATES THAT CONTINUALLY TURN UP THAT ARE CONTINUALLY AND PERSISTENTLY ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL ARE THE ONES THAT I ADMIRE THE MOST.
THEY RECOGNIZE THE REALITIES OF WHERE THE MAJOR MEDIA AND WHERE THE STORIES ARE BY AND LARGE GOING TO BE WRITTEN ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
BUT THE PERSISTENT NATURE OF SOME OF THESE FOLKS TO JUST BE AT THE APPROPRIATE EVENTS AND TO TAKE THEIR TIME AT THE STAGE WHEN THEY KNOW IT'S THEIR TIME BUT THEY ALSO HAVE RESPECT FOR THE PROCESS AND RESPECT FOR THEIR LEVEL OF OPERATION IN THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.
THE THING I GOT OUT OF THE FORUM WHICH I WASN'T SURPRISED AT BUT I ALSO WAS IS THAT THE LEVEL OF DIGNITY AND THE LEVEL OF RESPECT THAT THEY HAD THE FORUM AND FOR ONE ANOTHER.
I'D AGREE.
I'D ALSO SAY THERE SEEMED TO BE MORE OF A UNIFIED MESSAGE THIS TIME THAN I RECALL FOUR YEARS.
WORLD AFFAIRS, THE ECONOMY, HEALTH INSURANCE SEEM TO BE A REOCCURING THEME FOR MANY OF THE CANDIDATES.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS AS PRESENT LAST TIME AROUND.
FOUR YEARS AGO WE DID THE FORUM FOR THE FIRST TIME.
I FOUND THIS TIME AROUND THE CANDIDATES CAME TO US I THINK IN A MUCH MORE SERIOUS NATURE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO AND SHARED SOME COMMON THEMES.
WHAT IS THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ABOUT HAVING THE BAR SO LOW AND ALLOWING AS MANY PEOPLE AS WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS PRIMARY BE PART OF IT?
WELL, THE WHOLE BASIS OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY BEGAN IN 1916.
THE WHOLE IMPETUS WAS TO INVOLVE MORE PEOPLE IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS, TO LET THE VOTER DECIDE RATHER THAN THOSE IN POLITICAL POWER OR IN POLITICAL POSITION DECIDE.
AS IT'S EVOLVED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, THE CHANGE IN 1952 TO ALLOW NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS TO VOTE DIRECTLY FOR A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE RATHER THAN A NEW HAMPSHIRE DELEGATE PLEDGED TO A CANDIDATE, THAT REQUIRED AT THAT POINT EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO REGISTERED TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE IN THE STATE.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LESSER KNOWN CANDIDATE IS THAT THE LINE BETWEEN A LESSER KNOWN CANDIDATE AND A MAJOR CANDIDATE IS NOT DEFINITE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.
SOMETIMES IT ISN'T DEFINITE A LONG WAY INTO IT.
JIMMY CARTER IN 1976 BEGAN WORK IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IN 1974 AND NO ONE KNEW WHO IN THE WORLD HE WAS.
HE LITERALLY.
THEY USED TO CALL HIM JIMMY WHO, RIGHT?
THAT'S RIGHT.
HE LITERALLY IN HIS TRENCHCOAT WOULD BE IN THE STATEHOUSE CAFETERIA.
HE WOULD GO LEGISLATOR TO LEGISLATOR INTRODUCING HIMSELF, GETTING TO KNOW THEM AND BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THAT LED TO A SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN.
AND THE CHALLENGE HE FOUND THERE AND THE OPPORTUNITY HE FOUND THERE WAS IN 1960 WE REALLY SAW THE TELEVISION PLAY A ROLE IN POLITICS AND PARTICULARLY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
THAT SUDDENLY GAVE NEW HAMPSHIRE A SPOT IN THE WORD, NOT JUST ACROSS THE COUNTRY BUT WORLDWIDE.
AND THE CANDIDATES NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR MESSAGE BROADCAST EVERYWHERE.
CARTER TOOK EXCEPTIONAL OPPORTUNITY THERE TO DO THAT.
I THINK BILL CLINTON DID IT IN '92 AS WELL.
TO BE THE COMEBACK KID.
EVENTUALLY WENT ON TO WIN.
I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
I WANTED TO ASK MR. O'CANE ABOUT YOUR OTHER HAT THAT YOU WEAR WHICH IS AS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE CENTRAL NEW HAMPSHIRE HOLIDAY INN WHICH IS A STORIED HOTEL WITH MANY POLITICAL CONNECTIONS AND TO SEE IF I MIGHT GET A LITTLE INSIDE INFORMATION ABOUT WHO MIGHT BE HAVING THEIR PRIMARY NIGHT PARTY AT YOUR HOTEL.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A SECRET.
JOHN KERRY WILL BE WITH US THE NIGHT OF THE PRIMARY.
WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.
I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TELLING YOU THAT WE'VE WATCHED A SHIFT IN THE ROLE FOR YEARS THAT THE WAYFARER HOTEL WAS PLAYED AND THAT THE CENTER OF NEW HAMPSHIRE IS GROWING IN PROMINENCE.
WE'RE QUITE PLEASED TO KNOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON AND THAT WE REFER TO THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE TASS NEW HAMPSHIRE.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PRESS ARE WITH US AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE SEE THE CANDIDATES ON A REGULAR BASIS.
MICHAEL, SEAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
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One of the great privileges of living in New Hampshire is that every four years, you have the opportunity to meet presidential candidates. Often, you can even ask them a question or two. The American Friends Service Committee in Concord is taking it one step further -they're teaching interested voters how to get clear answers to those questions. It's called bird-dogging. Producer Phil Vaughn has found a group of high school students who are in the process of becoming bird-doggers.
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Shots of supporters with Edwards signs by Borders store
N1 - Senator John Edwards is expected at this store in Concord. He'll sign books and speak to primary voters.
Sound of Edward's supporters
N2 - Inside, Molly Bopp is waiting. She has a question for the senator.
Molly 4-1328 "I'm going to ask a question about manufacturing of nuclear weapons and if he's going to stop the manufacturing of nuclear weapons."
N3 - This will be Molly's first face to face encounter with a primary candidate. She has spent a week preparing for this moment.
Edwards walks in dissolve to class setting
N4 - This is bird-dogging 101. The class was taught at Concord High School by members of the American Friends Service Committee. Molly was a student.
Liana 1-1335 "We're trying to educate HS students about issues such as peace, the patriot act, environmental degradation."
N5 - Liana Foxvog is the Committee's youth organizer. Her hope is to turn these high school students into effective bird-doggers.
Liana 1-1133 "It's going out to campaign events and asking candidates questions about issues we care about. We raise our hand in the audience and asking pointed questions - we're trying to get the candidate to clarify their views."
Molly 2-1555 "Christie Gephardst came to our school a few weeks ago so that's my only experience and I asked a question and I was so nervous."
N6 - Good bird-dogging starts with thorough research. It ends by asking the right questions.
Liana 1-1528 "A good question is where you have researched what the candidates position is and asking them a specific question where you try to get them to commit and explain what their policy would be."
Molly 2-1537 "Because the things the candidates are going to be voting for are going to affect me and they're going to affect everybody."
Liana 1-1445 "We don't want to tell the students what to say. We want to support them in learning to gain more knowledge about issues they care about."
Shot of Molly meeting volunteers
N7 - Before the students go out to meet the candidates, they practice on campaign volunteers.
2 - 2305/2433/2529/2833/2905/2935 - Interactions between Molly and campaign workers
Molly 2-2935 "This has been a great experience. I was nervous but it gets easier."
Dissolve back to Edwards talking
Molly 4-1343 "This is the real deal, I'm going to be a lot more nervous but I feel more confident after asking questions of the representatives."
Liana 4 - 1445 "I just want to support her. I know she is really nervous about it and it's an exciting opportunity for them. I wouldn't have done this at their age."
Edwards 4-2413 "I'm willing to answer any other questions at the book signing table."
Molly 4-2505 "We're just talking about our hearts were going da, da, da."
Cut to Molly standing in line talking with friend
N8 - While Molly waits, her question for Edwards changes, from weapons to trade.
4-2620 Molly and friend practicing her question
4-2811 Molly asks Edwards her question
4-2850 Liana standing next to follows up Molly's question
Liana 4-3050 "Molly asked a question that was to the point, articulate and showed she understood the issue."
Molly 5-108 "I was nervous, I kept it going through my head but I liked his answer, he gave me a direct answer"
Liana 4-3120 "I want Molly to get out and ask other questions to candidates. I know she's been feeling nervous and practice makes perfect"
N9 - Beside looking for answers from the candidates, bird-doggers want them to see the faces and hear the voices of the people. As Molly says, it's her right and duty.
Molly 5-425 "It's really important because I'm only 17 so I can't vote yet so I'm having a say in the democratic process - I can't have a say in the election but I can have a say now."
N10 - For NH Outlook, I'm Phil Vaughn.
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 01/12/04 22:00
HOST: Julie Donnelly Length: 26:46 minutes
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, you've heard the names Dean, Kerry, and Lieberman. But what about Bosa, Rigazio, Callus? We'll meet some of the lesser known candidates running in the first-in-the-nation primary. Plus, we'll show you what it's like to bird-dog a presidential candidate. As we make our way towards New Hampshire's Presidential Primary on January 27th, there are some official candidates who never even make it onto the mass media's radar screen. They struggle for any press coverage at all. But these long shots are the main attraction at the Lesser Known Candidate's Forum - held every four years at the Tuck Library in Concord. Chip Neal has the story. Joining us to talk more about the history of the Lesser Known Candidates and their impact on the primary, Michael Chaney the executive director of the New Hampshire Political Library and Sean O'Kane a member of the Library's Board of Directors. One of the great privileges of living in New Hampshire is that every four years, you have the opportunity to meet presidential candidates. Often, you can even ask them a question or two. The American Friends Service Committee in Concord is taking it one step further -they're teaching interested voters how to get clear answers to those questions. It's called bird-dogging. Producer Phil Vaughn has found a group of high school students who are in the process of becoming bird-doggers.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Julie Donnelly, Chip Neal, Phil Vaughn NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Michael Callis\R - Conway, Lyndon LaRouche\D - Round Hill, VA, Harry Braun\D - Phoenix, AZ, Edward O'Donnell\D - Lebanon, MIchael Chaney\Dir. NH Political Library, Gerry Dokka\D - Atlanta, GA, Robert Linnell\D -Lebanon, John Buchanan\R - Miami, FL, Robert Haines\R - Manchester, , Richard Bosa\R - Porstmouth, Katherine Bateman\D - Chicago, IL, John Rigazio\R - Barrington, Sean O'Kane\Board of Directors, NH Political Library, Liana Foxvog\AFSC Youth Organizer, Molly Bopp\High School Student
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